MIGRANTS, MIGRATION AND MUMBAI

May 19 2008  | Views 1154 |  Comments  (89)
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  friend2003 posted 4 weeks ago

Avinashjee,
Nice article and I find myself agreeing to most of what you have written and quoted.
In the past, climate and geography have also played a part. The rivers and other
water bodies have also played a major role in attracting people. Today, many flock
to Bangalore because the climate is good (cool ten months of the year prompting
Jawahar Lal Nehru to comment that B'lore is an airconditioned city) in addition
to availability of high paying IT jobs.
As for Raj Thackray, he is playing a political game. I think he too realises that the
economic engine of Mumbai is run by mostly non-Marathis.
Nice article...keep it coming.
Subu



  kamalji posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Avinashjee,

Well researched and said.the comparison between American migrants who worked as waiters and rose to the top and the Mumbai migrants, is superb.

Do u know Avi, when we migrated from Pakistan, we landed in Mumbai in Ulhasnagar,with nothing.And we worked hard and made something in Mumbai.so basiocally my family too is a migrant since independence.

Wonderfully explained.Regards.kamal



  Avinashjee posted 2 mnths ago

Hi Srinath,
Thanks for such a detailed comment. It is enriching for the readers as a wonderful example of the case I made.
Thank you for this and regards
Avinash



  kalpita raj posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Avinashjee,
                                 certainaly i agree wth u---regards n luv,
                                                                                kalpita

 



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  srinath girish posted 2 mnths ago

Dear Avinashjee,

Sorry for taking so long to read and comment on your blog, I was not well.

Let me add my two bits. I come from Calicut, a city which was once the homing zone for people from all over the world, a long, long time ago. Under the Zamorin Kings, it reached a spectacuar level of fame and prosperity. Gujaratis, Sindhis, Cutchi Memons, Marwaris, Parsis..name them, we had them..and still do. As for foreigners, the Jews, Arabs, Africans and Chinese were here from the beginning. It was the advent of the Portugese that turned fortunes around and led to the kingdom being levelled to a mere vassal of the British Empire. 
All religions flourished in Calicut in its heyday. Even today, you find influences of all peoples in everything around town. There is a Dutch settlement area,  a French settlement area and also an English one.
The point I am trying to drive in is that if the Zamorin Kings had decided to keep out all external influences, this place would have been nothing. It goes for them too - they were not natives of Calicut, but were migrants from the neighbouring district!
It goes for me too..though I was born and brought up here, my origins are from a place which was inimical to the Zamorin State. If immigration was not permitted, I wonder where on Earth I would have been!
I agree with you - the essence of a civilisation is the extent to which it is able to take external ingredients, add them to its bubbling cauldron and produce an inspiring concoction. The moment it starts excluding all outside spices, the taste goes bland.
I hope I made some sense..I am still not out of my fever, I guess!
Regards,
Girish



  DSampath posted 2 mnths ago

Dear avinash jhi,

Wonderful logical economic arguemen ....let me offer a sociological counterpoint....

I some time wonder what i am
a migrant
a native 
I am a native of India and a migrant in karnataka. i am not owned up s a naytive in tamilnad where they call us aryans....
US is an assortment of migrants 
hispanics, chinese,jews,chinese, indians, italians, spanish , mexicans and .......
they have less identity and territorial integrity problems as a national identity....
but remeber how the migrants decimated th elocal red indians , the natives.
i need an identity which makes me a native...
if any one wants to  become equal to a native they need to qaulify for it.
in US unless you are a fourth(may be second . am not sure but theer is a qualification criteria) generation migrant you cant stand for state elections
But we are a wonder .....we have accepted an italian as an indian without any qualifications.
in indian if you have power you can buy nativity
you can also get nativity certificate by proper oayament to proper authorities..
let us Define a native and a migrant for our country...
have ways  by which a migrant becomes a native..
otherwise what is the meaning of territorial integrity which is a biological need....
in Usd i can clearly experience the distinction and differetiation between a native and a migrant
couched in diplomatic terms nevertheless very visible..
 let us accept this differrentiation as a reality rather than fight it.



  vinaykanchan posted 2 mnths ago

Hi Avinashjee

Was a bit tied up but had made a mental deadline of reverting on your post today and I am glad I did

Wonderfully articulated and I just couldnt agree more with you

Here's to more such thought provoking and insightful contributions from you

Cheers

Vinay



  reflector posted 2 mnths ago

Avinashji,

You have said it well...and as far as the Indic civilization goes we have been able to survive because of diversity and assimilation and not exclusion. 

Ashis Nandy spent most of his time in India but was a visiting professor at various points in his career and it is a fact that his work is more recognised and he is more revered in the West. 

A good analysis..I have been out of circuit for a long time but hope to be more regular..so will not miss out

reffy
reffy



  ashualec posted 2 mnths ago

The cosmopolitan spirit of  Bombay makes it special ..Changing its name to Mumbai was not in a good taste 

I am aware of the pressure and also the menace of migration but then its a different issue altogether 

We truly lack the spirit of taking India as one country and focus on petty self interests rather than considering on issues of National importance 
Special status given to people of Jammu and Kashmir is an insult to people of other states 

.Article 370 has now shown it poisonous effects....It is again an insult when people of Tamilnadu protest when Hindi is made a compulsory language

Unfortunately migration for better oppurtunities is now seen as encroachement  because there is nothing common in people of Tamilnadu and people of Maharashtra , no common language ,no common culture and even if they happen to follow the same religion Hinduism , there is so much of divison again 

I may have gone off track but i sincerely feel that unless we take the country as a whole , people like Raj Thackrey and his tribe will flourish





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